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Electric Moke Conversion
« on: July 20, 2011, 09:01:47 PM »
Thanks guys for the help probably the wiper was the simplest but without knowing how it was wired it would of been trial and error
so this afternoon i got some electrons flowing it is all working correctly just need to run the extra wires to the headlight dash switch as the choke must have it all on the stick
had a fun time trying to find some of the correct wires but it all seems ok 
i cut both plugs of either end an fitted some common type plugs with spare pins also
the 12v wiring for the ev side i had completed and connected  previously and is also working
it has a relay for a water pump (controller cooling), vacuum pump ,cooling fan for batteries and a latching relay which makes the car live when the key is turned to the start position   
need to replace some dash lights and get it operational tomorrow 
Some quick specs

220v dc 100ah 270 headway cells ( used mainly in E bikes )
battery good for 100km
Kostov 17r motor
Solitron controller
theoretically capable of 150 kw 
4.4:1 lsd no gearbox
does have diskbrakes ...
batteries in both sides and some in the engine bay

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 09:20:37 PM »
Sounds like a nice conversion, what diff arrangement are you using?

Some photos would be good, lots of photos would be better ;D
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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 06:32:55 AM »
Its sounding interesting, how much do the batteries and Kostov weigh in comparison to the moke power unit and a tank full of petrol?

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 12:48:19 PM »
used a subaru or datsun r160 fits well in the subframe without touching the firewall
belt driven from the motor to diff (would be good in a mad max film ) motor diff north south  configuration
the weight of the batteries motor and other ev components would equate to approx 250kg
guessing the petrol motor ,box and accessories  weight 200 kg ?


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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 02:34:22 PM »
My son and I picked up an A series engine/gearbox with assistance so I would say less than 200kg - more like 150?


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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 04:32:21 PM »
Yeah around 150-160kg sounds about right for the motor plus another 20kg for a tank full of fuel. So the EV will be a little bit bit heavier. I was wondering if you'd need to improve brakes or suspension as a result of the extra weight, but you'd probably be Ok. Some EV conversions lose the use of their rear seats because the batteries push them past the weight limit, but 2 seater Mokes are pretty common :D

I really want to see some pictures!

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2011, 08:58:16 PM »
Have had enough of wiring !
it is all done except for some minor bits
fitted an alarm ,radio wiring also 
that is the 12v wiring
have to start on the HV next
downloaded some pictures of  the progress of the car to the gallery
any questions please ask

will have to find a picture of the car previous to its restoration
 

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2011, 09:20:18 PM »
I'll just copied the BB code of each image into your thread so we can
see them in here rather than sorting through the gallery.

Very impressive ggt, did you do a trial fit before you painted the body or just wing it?
How much do the batteries weigh, they look lighter than Thundersky's etc, if that makes sense ???
Why did you go for a Choke loom, I would of thought that not much of it would be need, just a few simple bits for the wipers, lights etc.

following images and quotes from gttool
all clears motor has 15mm from body sits very low  in the engine bay a battery pack of 70 cells has to fit on top


 bolts into the side pods as per the original floor panel holes 96 cells
the electronics on top balance the batteries when charging and also record temperature and voltage via a can system to a tablet computer in the car













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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2011, 09:36:35 PM »
thanks Moemoke still learning this forum
you do also appear on the aeva website ?
i had an old shell also to check from but mainly done by measure
the batteries all 270 of them weigh 500grams
the original loom was very a mess it worked but i would not of looked right in the car
have used most of the loom for other uses in the ev side

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2011, 11:59:23 PM »
WOW, that looks so neat!

Well done, ideas, ideas.

Cheers

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 07:12:13 AM »
Wow....Looks great
Old Benny Franklin would be a happy man :)
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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 07:13:21 AM »
Thanks for the photos, that answers loads of the questions I was going to ask. I bet the cost of 270 batteries adds up pretty quickly!

I'm probably telling you how to suck eggs, but as a tech who spends a lot of time getting water back out of electronics, you will want to seal the  battery packs up a bit, at least shrink wrap them. I hope your side panniers are more watertight than mine.
 
Do the batteries get hot during use or just when charging?

Tim
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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2011, 04:52:37 PM »
the batteries will get warm if pushed
probably warmer when being charged the battery management boards do get hot as they are mainly a resistor bank thermal cut back at 85 degc painted with epoxy both sides to dissipate  heat
the batteries themselves shouldnt get over 60 deg  at anytime has a blower fan that circulates air through each side
will give the batteries a coat of lanolin or such to stop any corrosion
the side pods were previously water tight  just a bit dusty
Geoff
   

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 07:54:28 PM »
wheels turned on the weekend hopefully will be on its wheels by the end of the week at last....

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Re: Electric Moke Conversion
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2011, 08:45:09 PM »
Hi,
Ive never seen a project like this one before  8)  8).
Really interested in watching it come together as I would have no Idea how to go about.
It looks great.
Cheers
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