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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2012, 11:43:16 PM »
Hmmm...anyone else have one of these laying around in their shed? My custom job is working ok but is prone to flex so I've been looking for one of these brackets.

PM me if anyone has one they would like to part with for a reasonable fee.

Thanks,
Ian


Thanks all for your replies and input.

Thanks Spider and MD for the pics ..... after seeing that I've gone out to the garage and lo and behold we have one of those!:



It turns out we were sent that when one of the previous brackets failed.. but we were expecting to receive one the same as what had broken. We thought at the time that it was just totally the wrong type, that we couldn't use it, and so threw it into a drawer and ordered again :-[

I'm afraid that I have to agree that the 'standard' one must look neater. Alan spoke to Lindsay at Minis Plus this morning and what we're going to do is buy 2 of the flimsy ones and cut and weld a section of one onto the other for extra strength. It's just an alternative to welding washers that he wanted to experiment with first. I'll post pics when it's done. Lindsay said he may in the future look to having thicker ones made and explained it all in terms of harmonic balancing and the biggest vibrations being caused at 4000rpm....... If the new super duper thicker one fails we'll use the other one.

Thanks PP for your suggestion re the grommets, we'll replace them and have ordered extras. And thanks Biggles for your input and the offer of the spacers which hopefully we won't need..

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2012, 01:54:58 AM »
Hi everyone,
Mazy your engine bay looks great ;D
I put a 1275 in my Moke in 1999 and now even on my second engine still use the same radiator bracket that I made from a drawing given to me from a friend who's Moke I rebuilt. We also had trouble finding a new bracket. Granted, I have a 4 core rear facing thermastat housing, but like the other guys have satated, using a few small spacers would make them all the same height.
I made these using stainless steel, which is very prone to vibration work hardening it and cracking/ fracturing, so must be pretty right since its still the same one  8).
It looks horrible having all the extra holes in those brackets, doesnt it?
Any way, here is a picture of the drawing ( sorry, I'm not savvy with making drawings).
Please ignore the ROAR blue paper, concentrate on the lines ;)
Mr MoeMoke may be able to give us all a better drawing ;) He has a nice briefcase ;D

Sorry about my extra numbers scribbled on it, I'm a "Metric Man" ;)


Paint doesnt stay on stainless though ::)
I'll try and find a pick of just the bracket.

So,,,,,  this is your mission if you choose to accept it ;D
Cheers
HP
 
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 04:52:31 PM by Halfpint »
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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2012, 05:51:33 PM »
Mazy, apologies for jumping in like I did.

I've been hanging in the naughty part of the web since  :-[

Or Mini driver?

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 12:37:35 PM »
It does look to be one from a Rover Mini. They don't quite fit straight in to a Moke as the it is brackets off the fire all and these are at different angles between a Mini and a Moke. The connect to the pedal in much the same was as a normal master cylinder does. I've got a complete set up somewhere in a box. I'll post up a pic when I can find it.

Here you go Moe,

Booster (up-side-down)



Pedal



Booster against the firewall. You can see how far off the mounting holes are

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2012, 01:58:51 PM »
Just thought I'd show what we had to do to fit the brake booster...

The first pic shows the booster unadulterated, as purchased. We had to cut off and re-weld the mounting tip and move the return spring:




It then looked like this:




...And then somehow it fitted like this:






    Mazy
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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2012, 03:11:23 PM »
Geez that was easy ;D
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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2012, 04:30:18 PM »
Yeah I think that was the simplified version Pete  ;D.

I remember asking Mr Mazy about it when I saw them six months or so ago and commenting that I'd heard they slot in pretty easily. After he stopped laughing, he assured me that it was far from easy and one of the fiddliest jobs to get right that he'd done on the Moke so far.


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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2012, 06:11:53 PM »
Mazy, thanks for showing us how you guys did it.

I don't think I'll be fitting one to my Moke, but the Lady may get one.

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2012, 07:20:10 PM »
Iknow this is not the right place to put it but i have one off those master cylinders and booster and pedal set up if anyone is intrested

jm


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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2012, 08:44:31 PM »
    Hey, thanks Newie for the defence..... yes, you're right in that I did give the over-simplified version and neglected to mention how one of the A+ engine's oil breathers had to be cut and bent and re-welded to get it clear of the booster; or the detail in having to replace the brake pedal (with all the usual contortionist postures!); or the making and re-routing of brake lines; or having to re-weld the mounting bracket at the right angle on the booster; or the drilling of a further hole in the firewall...  :o :o :o
    ....but the last time I had to get a Pink Slip for Rego the mechanic (who'd done his apprenticeship a millennium ago at BMC) said that he'd never seen a Moke with "brakes that worked like that"  :D

    ....and apart from that
Geez that was easy ;D

    dizzy in the detail Mazy

   


     

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2012, 01:38:24 PM »
....Back to the experimental Radiator Bracket which Alan has just finished.....
Firstly, I must thank Biggles who kept me on the road in the meantime by insisting on welding the broken bracket which Alan had in his car when he popped in recently:




We bought 2 new brackets and after cutting and shaping one of them they're ready for welding together:




Voila!:






...And as for fancy hanger contraptions to dry the wet paint... we went back to nature:




Anyway, the weld is not the prettiest in the world but the bracket is obviously twice as thick as it was (pic may not show it too well) and should be much stronger. If it too fails we'll fall back on the triangle bracket.

    Mazy

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2012, 07:17:23 PM »
G'day Mazy,
         Are you sure you couldn't have put a bigger
picture of my crappy repair up? :o

           Biggles ;)

Ps Hows your back seat coming along?

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2012, 02:56:07 PM »
When the radiator bracket decided to part company with itself (!) it was agreed that it was as good a time as any to connect up the water heated manifold properly...
So Biggles:

Ps Hows your back seat coming along?

...You’ll have to ‘hangar on’ a bit so I can get this out of the way first  :) :D


Yes, Mazy  is a ‘girl’  and is obviously very fond of displaying her hosiery  :o :o

Before anyone comments about the sheer  ::) amount of hosing, it is all mostly necessary and comprises hoses for the heater, hoses from the carby, hoses from the carbon canister (the one thing that could be said to be ‘unnecessary’), hoses from the two A+ oil breathers and now also from the manifold.
..... yes, the engine bay is full...
I haven’t as yet noticed any difference since connecting it all up.... perhaps it has to get to early mornings in mid winter for this??

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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2012, 12:58:21 PM »
Yes, whether necessary or not, you do appear to have more hoses under the bonnet than your average Moke Mazy (as I know many have pointed out to you before) but to your credit, you somehow also manage to have one of the tidiest engine bays around too  :).

Not sure how you manage the trick, but well done  :)


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Re: The Mumblings of Mazy....
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2012, 01:49:56 PM »
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Mazy has had her new seats for months now and it was this that I had wanted to first share when I started this thread - but a broken radiator bracket put paid to that.

There were Tombstones in Mazy when we first got her. They'd been newly upholstered and that's the kindest thing I could say about them! See this earlier thread, Reply #11:

       https://www.mokeforum.com.au/index.php/topic,8064.msg94432.html#msg94432

But this is the gist of it:






It became obvious soon after that fixing them up to actually resemble what they should do from the inside out, was totally out of the question...
I'd happily been using 4 'Moke Australia' seats (always intended as a temporary measure though) for the past couple of years but was bitterly disappointed when faced with not being able to restore the original seats as that had been the plan from the outset.... then.... Captain Biggles to the rescue  :) :)

As luck would have it Biggles had at that stage a number of Tombstones in varying states of disrepair lying around that he offered me, and we were grateful to be able to salvage enough from them, combined with parts of the two we already had, to build two... he also said that he'd been wanting some 'choke' seats.... and, um, er, well, the swap was made! And the Rat was 'choked' in the process  :D

The mostly rusty seat frames needed a bit of work and some reinforcing. The diaphragms we bought were also not a perfect fit, a bit wide actually, as mentioned by others elswhere on the forum recently, but with a bit of modification were fitted fine.

A combo of these plus a couple of others:



The repair begins:







And the finished product:






Now the rear seat is a real gem because as per Ainsley's seat which has been shown on the forum before, it folds up neatly behind the front seats. I liken it to 'having your cake and eating it too' - having rear seats and having cargo space. I had long given up hope of ever finding one of these and so was totally gobsmacked when Biggles said that not only did he have one but that I could have it! Well, we made another swap with my rear 'choke' seats which Tony will make use of.

Parts of it were too rusted and pitted and needed replacing, and in the end after cutting it up to replace the various bits Tony and Alan basically re-fabricated the entire frame. After that Alan set about shaping up the seat support boards from Marine Ply:





After this it was off to the Trimmer/Upholsterer again. Very handy - he lives around the corner. Same guy who made the canopy. We're really pleased with the results:













In the end, a big thanks goes to Biggles for not only giving me the sets of seats to begin with, but for spending heaps of his valuable time on it too when he has his own mokes to work on.


    Mazy

 

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