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Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« on: February 27, 2017, 01:13:30 AM »
Hi Fellow Mokers,

Thought id share some progress on my December '78 Moke Resto.

This forum is a great resource, and its already been a great help pulling her apart!

- So far ive removed the tired 998 and stripped everything off the body
- Removed front and rear subframes
- Currently I'm cutting out the rusted out floors and bottom of the toe board/inner hull.
- The Bermuda triangle is pretty much gone at the bottom too. I'm going to cut all that out and put in some Angle Iron across and also rebuild the bottoms of the pannier box dividers using some smaller angle iron before welding in the new replacements.

- The top part of her is all good, hardly any rust anywhere.













Ill keep updating as I go along!

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 06:44:35 PM »
Good work another one saved, now here comes the hard work.
Don't short cut it as the pain later will be worse.

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 09:48:19 PM »
Nice work getting things apart Gizmo, but I'm a little concerned that you want to introduce angle iron into your repairs. Is it to help strengthen something?
Overlapping of different thicknesses tends to give moisture places to hide and give trouble later on.
The "Burmuda Triangle" is a term given to a very important structural section within the Moke. It is basically the chassis  ;).
There are people here among us that have good drawings of how the sheet metal is put together to reform these structural parts.
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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 02:32:14 PM »
Hi HP,

Thanks for the comments, I read in another few posts that others used angle iron to replace the inner sheet metal that made up the Bermuda triangle, and then welding the replacement outer floor pans and inner pans/inner hull bottoms to the angle iron.

My plan was to do that and also use some angle iron to replace the damaged bottom sections of pannier box dividers, giving some fresh new metal for the new pans to be welded to.

If there is a better way of tackling the repairs, or other methods you've used please let me know it would be appreciated.

Cheers!

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 09:36:44 AM »
Hi Gizmo
looking good , I have just put a new floor in my Moke last week , i got replacement repair panels off minisport , you end up with the terrible Burmuda Triangle again but every thing fits and looks original , i have taken lots of photos i would love to share with you , using a welder is easy but putting photos on a computer well not so easy
you can send more photos i like to watch  :)
cheers
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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 04:32:35 PM »
Hi Cheezle,

I have the same panels from minisport, plus the bottom of the inner lower hulls.

Did you overlap the new minisport pans with the back of the inner hulls and weld again that way?

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2017, 06:03:53 PM »
no i didn't over lap , i sat the new floor in then laid the side hull repair panel in, marked the hull panel,removed every thing ,clamped a pice of 25x3 flat bar on my line, so i would get a nice straight cut, then fitted all back in , spot welded floor where ever it was previously spot welded and butt welded the repair hull panel in , i did the welding inside the boxes , very short stickers so you don't get panel to hot , on the inside there is a very small seem that didn't need grinding, i will put a smear of body filler over it and paint
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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2017, 06:53:19 PM »
Thanks again Cheezle.

The new floors I got are quite high on the sides and go as high as the new bottom hull repair panel it seems.

Did you trim the new floor panel down so you could use the side hull repair panel, or did you weld the side hull and the floor extension together?

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Gizmo

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 08:22:23 AM »
Hi Gizmo
no i didn't trim any of the new panels ,
cheers
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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 08:59:05 PM »
Thanks Cheezle.

I'm close to repositioning all the pans in mine so i'll do what you did!

Cheers!

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 10:09:09 PM »
Hi Guys,

My method will be as below:

- Mark and Cut old Hull section and remove
- Lay in new Floorpan.....is the far side of the floorpan (upper section) also welded to the pannier box dividers? Meaning that I would weld that first and then spot weld the Hull repair section to the floorpan, with butt welding the inner hull repair to the existing upper hull section.
I take it that forms the new Bermuda triangle again.

- Weld Pan as needed
- Weld in Hull repair section.


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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 10:50:20 PM »
This is how it was done originally, as you can see plenty of areas for water to seep into and turn to rust



And this is how most people repair the various rusty bits



Some of the hire mokes in Qld have done away with the lower slope of the inner side box
so that the vertical face forms the inside of the 'cabin' area

With the new floor pan do you get up to the spot welds where the vertical piece meets the slope?
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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 08:30:38 AM »
Moe...thanks for the drawings!

That clears it up a lot.

I'll have to measure up again, but it looks like the new pans are the right height to meet that point.

I also have the inner side bottom repair section too as mentioned earlier.

If these new pans meet the right height, I guess the best option first would be for me to remove the upper spot weld where the inner side is welded to the pannier divider, and then remove the bottom spot welds for the inner side, cut that out and then remove the remaining spot welds holding the floor into the pannier divider.

The bottoms of some of my pannier dividers inside the side box are pretty bad, would 15x15mm angle be good to replace them with?


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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 08:51:03 AM »
Hi Gizmo I went and got some 1.2 zinc anneal bent up to repair the bottom sections of the pannier dividers , today I'm going to fit a new front head light   panel  :)

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Re: Gizmo's Moke Resto - 12/78 Yellow Devil
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 09:42:10 PM »
Thanks Mate Much appreciated!