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Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« on: September 18, 2018, 05:25:03 PM »
Anyone fitted one of these? Results  ? Thoughts ? Cheers, Jim.

http://minisport.com.au/mini-rod-change-gear-lever-bias-barrel

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 05:41:39 PM »
Hi Jim

I had 1 of these & tried to fit it to my moke. With lots of messing around I got it in situ, but it never worked satisfactory.  I could have done something

wrong, but I came to the conclusion that they probably work well on minis, because the rods are  much longer.

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 07:13:08 PM »
Jim

I have one, it works perfectly and I love it! It fitted easily, needed one adjustment and has been in for over three years (at least 20,000 km) and its still good.

Now you have two opposite points of view - bugger!

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 06:38:59 AM »
Guys

I have had a re think. This was put into a 1981 moke. The rod is bent into 4 different angles to throw into the gearbox. I think these rods were only in the

 80-81 mokes. If you have an earlier moke like Rob's, it may be ok.

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 07:28:06 AM »
Hi,

MR's Moke maybe an export but the Engine and gearbox are a later set up so don't go by the age of the Moke. :)

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 11:10:04 AM »
...and of course a picture (or two) is worth a thousand words after all...





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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2018, 01:52:34 PM »
Thanks for that Rob. Certainly is worth a thousand words for those of us who have no idea how they are fitted.

All makes sense now.

Is fitting simply a matter of sliding it over the rod and tightening up a grub screw or something?


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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2018, 02:27:17 PM »
I've always wondered how they were fitted, I thought they went around the gearstick somehow.

Its still not clear to me what they actually do?

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2018, 02:55:16 PM »
Is fitting simply a matter of sliding it over the rod and tightening up a grub screw or something?

Thats exactly how it works.

What does it do? It provides spring pressure when engaging first or second gear (just like your modern car that has a spring loaded gate). Third and fourth gear are just conventional back and forth, while you overcome the spring for first and second.

Rob
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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2018, 05:49:39 PM »
G'Day, Excellent Pics of the Setup Rob, very informative, definitely worth the 1000 words. However, as Alan has pointed out I'm thinking how the bends  could make it difficult to line up that V spring onto the steady bar from the selector rod on an 81 moke . See MD's pics below, too lazy to get under and photograph mine!! I think maybe I'll give it a miss, bit expensive if I can't get it to work, thanks for the input guys. Cheers, Jim.



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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2018, 12:31:14 PM »
Hope you get an answer about the bends i would be interested to read.

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2018, 01:49:10 PM »
What does it do? It provides spring pressure when engaging first or second gear (just like your modern car that has a spring loaded gate). Third and fourth gear are just conventional back and forth, while you overcome the spring for first and second.

Nope sorry, still don't get how that makes any difference. Doesn't my hand do exactly that anyway?

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Re: Rod Change Gear Lever Bias Barrel
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2018, 07:03:59 PM »
Hehehe! Depends on your setup I guess. In my experience  the Moke gear lever wobbles around without definition of any real ‘gate ‘. What the spring does is sets an alignment for third and fourth gear but requires pressure against the spring for first and second. I found it helps avoid the situation where you are stirring around looking for third gear and end up trying to engage first.

See ....easy!

Rob
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