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Tips for removing speedo cable.
« on: November 23, 2019, 04:17:34 PM »
From underneath it is easiest to do it when changing the oil. Drop the oil, undo the top ball joint on the LHS, pop the inner CV from the gearbox and this should give you plenty of room to reach up and undo.
Terry
Can Terry (or someone else) be a tad more specific re that CV removal please.
About to change the speedo cable.
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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2019, 08:18:55 PM »
Hi Peter,
Not sure what you need about specifics, but assume its how to remove the pot joint from the diff output shaft?
So get the Moke up on stands, remove the Left Hand Side wheel and as mentioned, drain your oil, undo the LHS top ball joint and split it from the upper control arm. Dont let it fall too much away from the control arm though, it may pull the inner part of the CV(Constant Velosity) joint out of the outer and dislodge the balls. Using a cable tie will free up a hand for the next bit  :).
Generally it doesnt take much effort to "pop" the inboard CV from the gearbox, especially if you could put an even amount of pressure on opposite sides between the side cover and the CV Pot. There is a small ring that slips into a groove that "Pops" out between the shaft and the inner spline of the CV. Once it comes out, cut the cable tie and let every thing rest. Should be heaps of room to get access to the speedo cable retainer. 

I think I have some sort of double jointed hand, because as long as its not done up with vice grips, ive been able to reach in from the engine bay and undo it. Cant say that I dont grimmach or squirm doing so, but been able to do it in a pinch.
Usually its done when the motor comes out, In fact its the last thing to dis engage engine from body  ;).

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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2019, 09:12:54 PM »
Thanks HP. Wonderful.
There is no way I could get to it from the top, so will give it a go from the bottom in the next few days.
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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2019, 10:37:36 PM »
Hi,

there is a proper tools for removing the drive shaft from the CV and there a picture in the back of the good workshop manuals if you wanted have a go at making something similar.

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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2019, 11:15:17 PM »
Duurr.. have not looked at the manual. :-[
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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2019, 05:18:52 PM »
2 steps forward, 1 step back.  ::)
New speedo cable is in.  :) The old one was not broken. The bottom half was rusty and friction was high.
However, in my efforts to get the drive shaft out of the way all the balls fell out.  :-[
I presume that I can put it back together where is (with some new lubricant, of course)?
Tomorrow's job after I get some appropriate lubricant. Manual says BLMC HYL4139.
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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2019, 11:55:18 PM »
Bugger, never mind, easy fixed.
Peel back the boot from the outer and get all the balls out and clean them all up.
Re insert the inner part of the CV and bend it, this is when you insert the ball back into the slot, spin it around a little so the next slot is fully open, insert the next ball and keep going around.

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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2019, 12:03:50 AM »
Ta. Sounds easy :)
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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2019, 08:02:06 AM »
Hi,

was it the inner or the outer CV that dropped the balls?

I would think it was the inner, as the outers don't drop balls, and I think HP's description was for the outer CV. Process is similar, clean them up and  pack them in the race with a bit of grease and then slip back into place.

I use a moly grease on the CV's.

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Re: Tips for removing speedo cable.
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2019, 09:10:47 PM »
It was the inner CV. I did not touch the outer.
After a few false starts, I held all the balls into the cage using the grease and then slipped the outer ("bell housing") over the lot. Compressing the clip to re-engauge it on the spline took a few goes but eventually it popped on.
I got a tube of grease from Mini Sport who are just a few km away and I swapped the bell housing for another that I had that had a lot less wear (but still OK).
Thanks all for the help... Lots to learn.
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