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Rod change gear shifter.
« on: July 25, 2020, 06:32:54 PM »
Does anyone know the reason why the rod shifter is mounted on cotton reeel mounts.
I cant see heat being an issue and surely there is not that much vibration.
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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2020, 09:47:15 AM »
Hi Steam,

Torque reaction from the engine moving binding the sliding shaft causing seal and case wear making changing gears harder?

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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2020, 10:00:16 PM »
The motor is on rubber mounts so it makes sense to have the rod change on rubber too.
If it was fixed and the motor flexes it could probably knock it out of gear or change gears for you.
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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2020, 10:12:11 PM »
Torque reaction from the engine moving binding the sliding shaft causing seal and case wear making changing gears harder?

The motor is on rubber mounts so it makes sense to have the rod change on rubber too.
If it was fixed and the motor flexes it could probably knock it out of gear or change gears for you.

What they said  :D

Unfortunately, if we make all these things rigid, things will fracture due to the torsional effect that the body and drive train creates.

Best to just use these cotton reels and not worry too much about why, bit like engine mounts or radiator support rubbers, vibrations are an annoying part of Moking. Well that's my thoughts anyway.
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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2020, 08:10:02 AM »
All responses make sense.
I am sick and tired of the cotton reel mounts failing so I have changed the system somewhat.
I will report back on success or failure.
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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2020, 11:18:12 AM »
All responses make sense.
I am sick and tired of the cotton reel mounts failing so I have changed the system somewhat.
I will report back on success or failure.


Years ago I had a similar problem with breaking cotton reels, the exhaust was connected to it but it had to much tension on the reel
so I had an exhaust shop heat up the pipe and relieve the tension. much better now.
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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2022, 04:45:09 PM »
Has anyone fitted one of these rod change shifter bracket from Minisport?


Don't want to hear they are crap as just purchased one.

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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2022, 04:59:10 PM »
How does that fit, qnd is it different to the OE ones?
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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2022, 05:35:50 PM »
How does that fit, qnd is it different to the OE ones?

It replaces the rear bracket that goes between the current mounts and puts the mounts up in the tunnel, new holes required to be drilled, and allows the exhaust to get past where the bracket would have been.

Another variation on it is to create an L shaped bracket moving the right hand mount to the top of the tunnel, again giving the exhaust a chance to get past.

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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2022, 05:41:26 PM »
Has anyone fitted one of these rod change shifter bracket from Minisport?


........But why do you want a change, Rod?  ;D ;D ::)


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Re: Rod change gear shifter.
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2022, 04:02:47 PM »
I haven't fitted one of those but it looks pretty much the same as one I made to fit a rod change into an early remote change Mini.

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