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« on: August 12, 2020, 07:32:58 PM »
Hello Boys and Girls,

I must be more bored than I thought, now i am looking for things to do to the Moke.

I got a very nice delivery from the UK today.





I have no idea if they will make much difference but like the bonnet scoop, they look tough, lol.

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2020, 08:05:17 AM »
They won't make much difference if the stay in the box! :o
They will however, stop you when on the moke. 8)
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2020, 04:31:11 PM »
Hi Steam,


Ha, give me till the weekend, i only just got them.  I'm still waiting on speedo drive parts as well.

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2020, 08:11:34 PM »
They sure look good Dave, all nice new hoses and discs will look great through the wheels.
Will be a nice weekend of tinkering to fit them all up  8)
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2020, 10:26:35 AM »
Hi Guys and Girls,

This is the before and after part of the show.

Before :-


After :-


Yes the split pin has been bent into place.

Now here is a photo to show just how BIG the calipers really are, the leading edge of the tie bar arm just touch's the caliper.  I have relieved it and i checked the lock to lock which is 2 and 1/4 turns.  The manual says 2 and 1/16th so the caliper wont actually touch when driving.  I think the tyres will hit the guard well before the caliper could anyway.

 

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2020, 07:39:21 PM »
Wow, that is close 😎.
Hope your seat belts are in good nick , I think they will need to be for when the lights suddenly change and you have an uncontrollable urge to suddenly hit that brake pedal hard ;)
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« Last Edit: August 16, 2020, 05:21:07 AM by Halfpint »
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2020, 07:50:08 AM »
Nice. Its a shame to hide them behind the wheel.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2020, 05:54:16 AM »
  I discovered a couple of interesting things while changing these brakes over, this might be of interest to anyone else that purchases a Moke that has already been fitted with a yellow tag master cylinder.

The  first is the orientation of the brake fluid lines to the M/C, my car must have had a "green" tag M/C previously.   When the new yellow tag one was fitted, who ever fit it to the car screwed the lines into the orifices that lined up with the old brake lines.  I had the top piston working the rear brakes and the bottom the fronts.  The yellow tag M/C is reversed the top piston does the fronts and the bottom the rears.  To complicate the matter the PO fitted a power booster, so i had power assisted rear brakes!  It did stop well though and no locking of the rear brakes.

The second thing is the car has ISO Bubble pipe flairs, the yellow tag M/C comes with an adaptor that has a double flair so the brake line flair into the adaptor has to be changed.

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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2020, 08:58:36 AM »


I must have been having a "senior" moment the brake line out of the booster goes to the front brakes.

So does anyone know what effect a larger piston has?  I guess more volume less pressure?

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2020, 09:46:52 AM »
Hi,

which 'larger piston' are you referring too?

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The  first is the orientation of the brake fluid lines to the M/C, my car must have had a "green" tag M/C previously.
The green tag M/C was the style originally fitted to the Mokes.

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2020, 03:34:05 PM »
Hi Terry, 

The yellow tag M/C has 2 different sized bores, the top one, for the front brakes is smaller diameter.

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2020, 12:30:36 PM »

Ok, the leaning curve continues.

The yellow tag M/C comes with an adaptor for the rear brake line, the adaptor (GMC227ADAPT) is said to allow the use of your existing 3/8 UNF, 24 tpi flair nut.  As a rough guide the 3/8 flair nut measures 9.2mm and is VERY loose in the adaptor, the reason is that the adaptor is metric both male and female thread.  The correct flair nut for this adaptor is 10 x 1 mm.

The 3/8 flair nut does screw in to the adaptor and maybe with the double flair it might be ok but for my peace of mind, i'll change to the 10 x 1 mm.

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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2020, 04:42:41 PM »
Pretty sure their both metric in the yellow tag master.
Top is 10mm and bottom one is 12mm.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2020, 06:12:22 PM »


Yep, they are metric HP, the adaptor is also metric, as i found out today.

The front brake (Top pipe fitting) is 10 x 1 mm with an ISO Bubble flair while the lower (rear) is 12 mm, hence the adaptor, which is an inverted double flair, from 12mm down to 10 x 1 mm.  Unfortunately my brake line flair nuts are 3/8 UNF, about 9.2 mm as opposed to the 10 mm threads in the adaptor.