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« on: September 14, 2020, 07:48:10 PM »
 Hi,

I purchased a moke last year, which is in reasonable condition.

It spent most of its life in a factory in South Australia.

Terry you may recall I sent some photos to you pre covid..... remember those days.

I live in Victoria and I am looking at getting it resprayed along with some mechanical work....  I have spoken to a few moke specialists and think some of the respray prices are well and truly over the top.

I  tinkered around with cars when I was younger so I have some idea of cars.

I was wondering what forum members thoughts were that a fair price would be for a respray for a moke in reasonable condition and if anyone had a recommendations and also for a mechanic..... I would be very grateful.

I am talking to a few painters and mechanics so if I end up going down this path.....  I will share the good, bad and ugly but hoping someone can help and may have some contacts.

Thanks,

Scott

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Re: respray
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2020, 08:12:16 PM »
Hi,

prices are difficult to compare purely on a figure alone as one person might be quoting on minimal preparation and spraying some enamel over whatever isn't taped up while someone else may be quoting on removing all the paint and starting on a bare metal shell. Therefore the first question would be what are you asking them to do and/or what are they offering to do for their given price.

If you have played around with cars in the past, what are the  mechanical issues that you think you need a mechanic for or why not attempt them yourself?

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2020, 08:20:25 PM »
Hi Green is nice,

Shouldn't you be driving around in a black blown 57 2 door Chevy not a moke ;-)

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Re: respray
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2020, 11:06:07 PM »
Green is nice

You are asking a very variable question 1. What condition is the current finish, are you going to paint strip or sand blast. 2. How much rust does it have. 3. What paint are you going to use - there many different quality of two pack paints. 4. Will it be sprayed with clear over base or solid. What finish do you want vs what you are prepared to pay for - wet rubbed and polished or straight off the gun.

Having sprayed many motorcycles, cars and aircraft I can tell you its all about preparation which is expensive man hours, the actual spraying is only the last 5% of the job. Depending on the condition of your moke it could cost  $3000 or much much more. The paint I have just put on my moke costs more than $200 per litre and that is just for the actual colour, not catylist, reducer, high build primer, etch primer, sealer etc etc.

So when comparing prices make sure you are comparing apples with apples . Stay away from el cheapo two pack for use in the Australian sun or what is referred to as a " Jam Coat "  they just jam it on and push it out the door.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 10:19:49 PM »
Hi all,
Thanks for your replies and comments.
I haven’t been online for a few weeks as I am travelling at the moment.
Brad you obviously also like running on empty.
Thank you Terry and Mission for your advice. Do either of you have a spray painter you would recommend?
Terry have you restored your moke?
Thanks
Scott

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 10:33:40 PM »
Hi Scott,

I sort of recall the conversation but I couldn't find any photos, do you remember if it was via email or phone?

I have a few Mokes on the go at the moment but I think the one we were talking about is more or less finished but the engine, which I only made look pretty, had a terminal problem so the engine had to come out and is in the process of getting a crank grind and a scrub with a dunny brush on the insides.

My preferred painter is north east east of Melbourne out of the suburbs so a long way from Blairgowrie, which incidentally the main focus at the moment is another Moke from Blairgowrie. :) For mechanics I prefer to do my own work.

Terry

 

 
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2020, 08:32:52 PM »
Green is nice

I cant help you with spray painters down in your part of Aus, and I am my spray painter. Look at the work a spray shop puts out is a good starting point and as mentioned make sure your wallet matches what you want the finished job to be. Some shops may let you do some of the labour, rubbing back etc. The photo is off my just finished moke cali where I put in at least 60 hours of preparation before I put on the finish coats.


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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2020, 09:44:42 PM »
I can only comment on my ground up rebuild.

I had the body sand blasted and epoxy primed by a professional who specializes in vehicle restoration. That set me back $2750. Sounds a lot but all the rust is gone and the 2pack primer is now ready for final surface prep and paint. The primer is Concept Paints EP41. One of the benefits of this product is that it handles welding quite well. Some bits came back from the blaster needing some attention. I just used a die grinder to bare back 10mm of paint. The surrounding paint did not burn or catch fire. It just fries up a bit and can be brushed away.

My plan is to paint the underside with KBS Black top chassis black. This paint has a really hard finish usually used for chassis. In fact the subframes have been done in it already. I will apply this by hand as the finish under the car is not seen. If you use a soft brush and thin it out a little it lays off really nicely.  Inside the tubs will also be done by hand in the final top coat color. I will get the bits people see done by a professional painter. I guess my philosophy is get the Pros to so the stuff that really counts, rust removal, visible top surfaces and save some cash by doing the bits that are not that visual myself.

BTW. My paint plan is to have a very bright green top colour which will be inside the tubs as well. The wheel arches and under side black. There are some Jeeps getting around that are Green with black wheel arches. Something like that is the idea.

I hope you don't have to go through the pain I have had to endure with the rust. I really just want to drive the thing but since I bought it 2.5 years ago it has not left the garage and is completely in bits. At least I will have the confidence that every single component of this thing has been handled by me and I know what it does and where it goes. And yes that includes the engine and gearbox!!

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2020, 09:36:57 PM »
Brad you obviously also like running on empty.

No one I reckon would have a clue what we are talking about?

I must be the only Mokey that use to own Bathurst HG 350 Monaro that now drives around in a Mini Moke.  Some would say I sold the wrong car...not me.  Have you seen the pot holes in the Bruce highway?