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Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« on: April 18, 2011, 09:31:11 PM »
Can we get springs here in Aussie
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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 09:42:55 PM »
Link to Mavs Post for some on ebay in Melbourne?

sold on the 16 April for $310

http://www.moke.com.au/Forum/index.php?topic=7110.msg85382#msg85382

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 09:55:59 PM »
Some of the UK Mokers use these
http://www.minitastic.co.uk/home1.htm
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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 10:40:38 PM »
there are a few south aussie members I have met that have them on there moke.
They love them. if you dont take you moke off road and just stay on the black stuff, the ride is heaps better.
the ride is softer the the donuts, and less spungy.

I would love to put them on mine aswell.

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 10:12:34 PM »
I have a mate in Holland, and he has a spring factory. And sells them all over the world.
he makes a few million springs a year. for any car you want.
I have had many chats with him and springs.
all they need to know is the weight, and the room they have to play with, and they can do anything.
But it is trial and error


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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2011, 09:48:10 AM »
But it is trial and error

I think thats the key. If you had a complete understanding of how a Moke's suspension works, spring physics is quite basic, you'd be able to calculate the perfect spring and get it pretty right first time, but if you've never even seen an Aussie moke with its longer rear trailing arms and big wheels, there would need to be some trial and error.

Or you could just use a spring thats already been designed for a Mini and chuck it in, it will still be better than knackered rubber cones.

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 09:58:42 AM »

Or you could just use a spring thats already been designed for a Mini and chuck it in, it will still be better than knackered rubber cones.

Tim

Well according to minisport in Adelaide , just use Mini springs : they say it works great.
Ask Terry and he will say ( my geuss) they dont work.
but as I have said before, they will work great aslong as you dont go OFFROAD. as there is not enough travel for offroading..

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 06:57:50 PM »
I still love the springs,and would love to have one of those sets... but I was suprised that they were not painted...to stop them from rusting.
and please dont say because the paint will fall off... ::)

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 08:47:06 PM »
That style of spring is pretty easy to find, I first saw them in the Japanese Mini Magazines about 15 years ago, but all the usual suspects sell them now. And the ones you buy off the shelf are painted. It annoyed me the way they pretended that they'd come up with the idea.



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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 08:51:14 PM »
You are right Tim, it does sound as if they are the first.
BUT....the springs they are using are not the same you show.
As they dont have the aluminium bit on it...theres is ALL spring, which IMO will give a longer spring and there for a better ride..

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 09:31:32 PM »
Mav,

The reason for the aluminum ends are to locate the spring where the donut would normally be. Without it then the spring will move around the be less effective.

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 09:47:50 PM »
Hi Terry, I get what you are saying. But....
The Wheeler Dealer springs dont have it....does that neam that they dont work as well ?

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 09:57:10 PM »
Mav, I put up a picture of the performance ones for racing Minis, because they were bright red, the road ones are just black and don't have the alloy bits.  :)

There's a lot of different types here:
http://www.minisport.com.au/category2_3.htm

There was an article in one of the Miniworld magazines a year or two ago about them and they reckoned that the best quality ones had alloy caps on the ends which made them seat into the subframes better and allowed you to compress them with a cone compressor to install them more easily.

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 10:05:09 PM »
thanks for that ....Learning all the time..
they are also new at Minisport...as they only had a few, if I remember correctly

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Re: Springs instead of Rubber Donuts?
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 10:11:19 PM »
Yes, they seem like a bit of a new discovery in the UK, but Japan has had them for years.

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